My husband is italain and he lives in italy and i live in uk so can i apply italain passport without registered in AIRE?? If you do it through him then it is Like two years for him to get citizenship. Hope you get news soon! Hi folks, Pratica definita. (Your confirmation page that you received that your online application has been received successfully.). I would like to share with my own experience on citizenship through marriage application. Original or certified copies of your respective birth certificates. In Saskatchewan during the summer, the time difference is one hour greater because Saskatchewan does not participate in DST. This includes: If your Italian spouse has dependent children, this does not affect the Italian Marriage document application. The new law which was passed in December has now changed the wait to 4 years, requires those who apply for citizenship via marriage also have a B1 level of Italian and has raised the application fee to 250 Euros, but other than the parliament website which published the new law when it was voted on, I’ve only seen the consular websites and Minister dell’Interno website updated with the new application fee. Funnily enough, the two times they replied were when I wrote in English. ” and has been like this for about 6 months already… Do you Know if the 730 days counts from the day of “accettata”? So I figure I should get my Citizenship started. CALL CENTER • Mon-Fri 8:00AM - 4:00PM EST How far back do they want me to go? brilliant post! Is this a law change? As you plan on spending more than 90 days within the Schengen area, I’m not sure if you need a specific entry visa in order to enter into Europe with the intent to marry, like a fiancee visa or something. Hi Guiherme, thanks! I had to wait in a queue outside to get in, but it moved pretty quickly. Do you work with an Italian accountant to help manage filing American and Italian taxes? Hopefully you have managed to find out something in Italy? I then had those translations apostilled by New York State. Unfortunately, it’s a two year wait after your interview at the consulate, but you’re free to travel. My husband does not know where to start. But she says that they are doing “their best” . Not sure how that squares with Rosemary (above in this thread) who applied on 1 November 2016 and got her appointment back in May. I wish to get some more verification due to a situation at hand base on obtaining a Carta di Sorggorno. I submitted my application to the consulate last year and they sent it to Italy as I now live here, but I’m still on stage 1 (of 7 stages). Please I would like to know how long it took before they called you to submit your document in person. Could you please tell me, how long did it take since you submitted your online application; to get K10 for an appointment at the Consulate? That understanding is based on 1) I got my appointment in the week of day 720 after application, 2) at my appointment, the woman told me to expect to wait a further 2 years. x, Along these lines to you think there is any chance that the B1 language proficiency for naturalisation though marriage may be revoked? I scanned the receipt when I applied and still have the digital photo. The new language requirement is frustrating because there seems to be little information out there. then enter every single address you lived at after that, PAGE 9 > Address 2: During the appointment at the consulate where I gave them my originals, they only checked my passport against the scan that I had sent when I sent in my application online. I don’t know how long you should wait. As a spouse of an Italian citizen, you will be registered as well and the consulate can tell you about what will happen with your family card. If this is the case you would not have had to translate it into English… they are only interested in the ITALIAN translations (you should have just had your original certificates translated into Italian). Is there any way you can go to the questura of your region and ask them what you need? I still haven’t received any notification about my application to date after I handed the interview . I have applied before the new reforms of 2018, but i wonder if someone was asked to bring the language certificate after the application has been approved. “Gli accertamenti di competenza dell’Ufficio periferico sono in via di definizione” It is a bit confusing to use the term “legalizing” for your ‘home country documents’ (e.g. There is the difference between “Apostilled”/Legalizing your ORIGINAL (government issued) certificates and “Legalizing” (putting an Italian Revenue Stamp on and relevant confirmations & signing of all your documents that are in ITALIAN)…, Your country’s Department of International Relations can only “legalize/Apostille” documents that have been issued by your country… so they can’t “legalize/Apostille” anything else like your Italian Translation, etc… they ONLY legalize documents issued by GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY (e.g. https://temi.camera.it/leg18/provvedimento/d-l-130-2020-disposizioni-urgenti-in-materia-di-immigrazione-e-sicurezza.html. Does anyone know if this will be a problem? Have you checked under “communications” on your online application? Regardless of what is reflected on your English passport / other legal documents, your Italian passport will be in your Maiden Surname. Frustratingly, my Italian wife is going to be out of the country on the day of the appointment, so I have to go alone. Even though I’ve had my appointment and my papers were sent to Venice and will have the rest of the process take place here in Italy now that I live here, I’m still in the first stage according to the Ministry website and I suspect it will take me a couple of years. **Please check the banking details yourself that you received from your Italian Consulate, this is just an example: Payment instructions Whether you are an Italian American or are looking for a great destination wedding location, you will definitely want to consider getting married in Italy.Italy offers a wide range of stunning, romantic, elegant, and charming locations to choose from, including: Court, free of charge) or legalized by the Consulate of Italy (Revenue stamp of R391.00 to be paid upon Kindest regards, Vicky, UPDATE: I received my “Codice Fiscale” 6 days after sending my application form Early July 2019: status, “Sono in corso verifiche istruttorie sugli elementi acquisiti relativi a chiarimenti e integrazioni con altri uffici coinvolti nel procedimento.- VEDI COMUNICAZIONI -” Visualizza Stato della Domanda -> Non risultano domande associate al tuo utente. I have an Italian passport and my husband will not while we are travelling Europe. Congratulations that is spectacular news! Thanks Adam! I have emailed the Italian consulate in London and they have replied that I have been granted citizenship and that it says so on the portal. The only “updated” document we have had to take with to our “oath” was a new marriage certificate to prove that you are still married… so I wonder if this new criminal record certificate is a new requirement as well now to prove you still don’t have a criminal record at the time of taking the oath? So i wish to find out how can i apply for her to get her sorggiorno. In the meantime, I wrote to the consulate numerous times and only when I told them that I was moving back to Italy that I got a response — first they looked at my application online and then they called me for an interview. It seems that the law has recently changed, but I’m not sure if that applies for people who reside in Italy or for those that live abroad though. I requested an got already the FBI one. Getting the documents are very challenging as I have lived in three countries before moving to London. You can give them a gift or pay them for their help. What date did you apply? “Associa Pratica sent online” to retrieve the request for Italian citizenship sent online; Citizenship is better. My Aire is registered in here (actually is under lavorazione since Oct/17). Visto per la legalizzazione della firma della Sig.ra XXXXX XXXXXX (name of translator), traduttore giurato, la cui firma è dipositata presso il consolato d’Italia in Cape Town, Roughly translated: I’m only 5 months into the new 4-year process, and am at “step 2”, but if I need to test out, I’d like to get it done. It was more like a informal meeting. If you google ‘SPID providers’ you can find a lot of articles in English that explain it. The granting of Italian citizenship aipursuant to Articles 5 and 9 and subject to possession, by of the interested party, of an adequate knowledge of the Italian language, not lower than the B1 level of the Common European Framework of Reference for knowledge of languages (CEFR). My husband just got his American citizenship within the past year and now I want to get my citizenship for Italy. I then had my appointment in October. This has meant that on the Italian side they’ve been able to work through some of their backlog.  Gli accertamenti di competenza dell’Ufficio periferico sono in via di definizione”. The Italian Ministry is quite clear on this matter; your application MUST be in your MAIDEN surname (the surname you were born with and that appears on your Birth Certificate)… regardless of marriage or other surnames abroad. Hi Giovanna, I am a bit confused with the timings and can’t find information anywhere. I have just applied in this June 2018, which seems to be long way for getting an appointment. Finally I have got an email on the 19 July 2019 they refused. Hello Iamin, I don’t know what your immigration status is, so I can’t tell you whether you are able to apply. 1) My Canadian birth certificate and criminal record check have been legalised (stamped & signed by the Department of Foreign Affairs — Canada doesn’t issue apostilles) and my UK police certificate has an apostille. Hi. x Giovanna. Does anyone know where i can check the evolution of my process? There are SPID providers that you can do online for a fee and they can verify your identity through a webcam. Is that normal to not go online website? You can sign up on the website now and have a look at the application and see what other documents are needed. For all the paperwork that you need to do when you arrive in Italy (permesso di soggiorno and residency), you’ll need your spouse around in order to check that you two are still married and live together. That’s awesome… I will keep a lookout for your blog post . On 20 Nov 2018 I received a letter from the consulate in NY saying my application “has been checked and accepted”. What kind of proof they require to confirm that translations are ok.? Here is the draft bill in writing for those that might be interested… https://www.cittadinanza.biz/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/leg.18.pdl_.camera.105.18PDL0005420.pdf. Should I send a Sollecito to the ministry of the interior to remind them if indeed this is a farce? Hello, HARP HOUSE La pratica è in fase di valutazione. Anagrafe degli Italiani Residenti all’Estero) at the nearest Italian Consulate where you live. They have asked for a ATTO INTEGRALE DI MATRIMONIO which I am assuming we have to request from the comune where we registered with is Asti ?. They want £500 just to have a chat – again seems like bonkers given the process. If you don’t have a child then as Khadim said, you will be eligible 3 years after your marriage so you can apply in Italy at that point. You may also need to provide financial statements. Hi Giovanna & All, Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!!! ONE pdf file for 3 pages (3 pages in ONE pdf file for your Unabridged Birth Certificate and 3 pages in ONE pdf file for your Police Clearance Certificate) > you MUST UPLOAD all 3 these pages in ONE pdf file on your online application! Hope this helps! Have you had to send your original passport to them and if yes how long they kept it for ? Hi Matt, thanks so much for sharing the link, that’s great news. So confusing! While I have a few semesters of Italian under my belt, I wouldn’t want to jeopardize an ongoing process through an exam. They have said I can pay and reapply again with new rules and wait time? Consulate General of Italy in Toronto, Canada, Consulate General of Italy in Montreal, Canada, Consulate General of Italy in Vancouver, Canada. The only thing I needed my partner to do was contact his comune in Venice to get the Estratto per riassunto dell’atto di matrimonio. The login process changed back in December and you will need a SPID number (Public Digital Identity Number) to log in. Thanks! thanks for replying and yes I managed to go for the appointment and get my bus back. Does anyone have any experience of this or guidance ? This is why I need to know a little more about your situation to be able to answer you accordingly.. The pdf is the application you submitted which you can download and next to that pdf symbol is another little symbol. I believe you’ll need to get the Colorado criminal records translated by someone in Colorado and then have those translation notarised by Colorado State. Do you think the date of birth will give us trouble. 83/86 Farringdon Street I applied online in Dec 2016 and had my appointment in Oct 2017, but I suspect I would have waited much longer if I hadn’t emailed to tell them I was moving back to Italy. I finally had an update in September. x Giovanna. Time frame – I applied online in Dec 2016 and didn’t get my appointment at the consulate until Oct 2017. Yesterday, there was just one queue for everyone. Because of Covid, you may have to fill out a modulo (found at the post office) and submit it there to get an appointment instead of just showing up at the questura like I did. The consulate has been swamped since Brexit as everyone and their mother in the UK that’s eligible for citizenship is applying and there are only two (TWO) people processing citizenship applications. Seems like such a long time considering the whole process :(. It’s really annoying. Civil Law provides for that a foreign citizen marrying an Italian man or woman needs to give few documents in. My marriage is in a rocky stage right now, are they ever going to know this? And that I could wait up to two years once my documents are submitted. Hi T, I am happy to report that it would seem that the new SPID only applies to people currently living in Italy and the site automatically identifies your location and that you are not in Italy and you can therefore still log in with your “Old Credentials”, I will update here if I experience any problems in this regard in future. Fax: No Fax Or do you think I have to wait another year because those two years were spent abroad? The thing is that we will only be staying in The UK for one more year.. otherwise, my other option was to apply for another visa here in the UK.. Hi Giovanna, thank you for your posts. Please keep us updated Thanks to your blog, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! It’s US focused and originally started for those who were seeking citizenship through ancestry, but they include JM applications, too, now and they have a lot of info in their UNIT section about the JM process and the different stages of the process once you submit your application. When you applied, uploaded your documents and presented your originals at the Italian Consulate… did you not have an “Italian Marriage Certificate”? They booked an appointment for me to present the documents on 18 June 2020 but due to the pandemia it was postponed to 31 July 2020. The Italian Consulate or Italian Honorary Consul/Vise Consul must sign next to the Sworn Translator’s signature and physically write that he/she confirms that the person who did the translation is a ‘Registered Sworn Translator’ and the amount paid in Euro and your home currency is recorded next to the revenue stamps). my date of birth (1981) – 31/07/1998 That is, you must freely consent to the marriage and have the capacity to understand what marriage means. I’m expecting it to take at least another two years, but probably longer. Any sense whether that would have been quicker or about the same? Or do I have to wait 3 years to start. The application link is coming up as an error. or back to zero? Passport or identity card of Italian spouse and photocopy When we have tried, we just stay on hold for 90 minutes and nobody picks up. I have just received my citizenship confirmation in the post! Yes I suspected we both will need to be there . x Giovanna. They began calling a little after 9:30, and by 10 we called up to the office on the 4th floor. The worst news is that you will have to present a B1 Italian language certificate which is a very high-level standard as compared to the other EU States, e.g. *sigh – i had them translated before they were legalised. Hi everyone I have 5 years family card but I don’t now if i should transfer my resident in uk or not I am not shure if I lose my family card, Hi Ben, Here’s a link to step 1 (in Italian) that explains that the prefettura and police check double check your residency, where you live, police record, etc. all sorts of thoughts rushed through my head, like they lost my application in the switchover and I have to start all over! Thanks for this. 72A Confirmation that a translation into Italian complies with its English original.” So I thought, “fine, I can translate it myself (I have a degree in modern languages plus some help from an Italian friend, so confident of getting it right), and then they will just check that it is correct.” Now, reading some of the posts above it seems like actually this should have been done by some sort of official translator? During your appointment, they’ll tell you to go downstairs to the cashier and pay for the certification and marca da bollo, so depending on the amount of people, you may or may not have to wait. I submitted my application online in April 2017. ), Any government issued certificate (Birth Certificate + Criminal Record Certificate, etc.) Hi! Hi Stacy! Thanks a lot for all the information. I know it was written in the London consulate in the past but did anyone actually ask them if they are still accepting? Hi Adam, I never tried phoning the citizenship office, however I always got a reply from them when I emailed them. 7. I’m only familiar with getting a PdS/CdS as the spouse of an Italian citizen. 6. Birth Certificates and Police Issued Criminal Record Certificates, etc. Did you apply for a permesso di soggiorno? However, the B1 language certificate requirement only applies to those who applied after 5 December 2018. If you have any children of your marriage, natural or adopted, the time period to be eligible to apply for citizenship is halved; 18 months if you live abroad and 1 year if you live in Italy. I have just been given an appointment at the London Consulate for this coming Thursday, 31st May 2018. x Giovanna. Once you have your Italian Translations, you will have to have the sworn translator’s signature “verified”… and this is what “legalizing” that document/translation means. Any news on your application yet Giovanna? Good afternoon Sadly, I am still on stage 1 after three years! I’m not sure if you will be called in for an interview. I didn’t do it, but I speak Italian and there is an instruction manual. Hi Giovanna Hi Danielle, thanks so much and thanks for the invite! but he said obviously the people at Border Control in Italy are aware that women don’t change their surnames in Italy and as I will be traveling with both passports I won’t have a problem presenting the correct one when asked. “Associate Practice”, You will then need to enter your details and your “Identificativo Domanda” (Question ID / Application ID Number)… this is NOT your “K10/C” number… you will need to search your documents / emails from the Ministry when you uploaded your online application and look for a document that says “RicevutaDomanda”.